Wednesday, November 14, 2007

Where Is The Outrage?

Judge: Remove 10 Commandments From Alabama Judicial Bldg.-11/18/02

Newdow sued the Elk Grove Unified School District in Sacramento County, California, which his daughter attended, claiming public recitation by students violated her religious liberty. While legal precedent makes reciting the pledge voluntary, Newdow said it becomes unconstitutional when students are forced to hear it. He argued that the teacher-led recitations carry the stamp of government approval.

SAN FRANCISCO — In pursuit of his goal to kick God out of government, atheist Michael Newdow has filed a lawsuit in federal court in an effort to remove the words "In God We Trust" from all U.S. coins and bills.


On June 19, 2000 the United States Supreme Court ruled 6-3 on SANTA FE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DIST. v. DOE (99-62) that student-led, student-initiated public prayer before football games violates the separation of church and state, and is not private speech protected by the First Amendment of the Constitution. The result of the Santa Fe ISD v. Doe eliminated Public School sanctioned pre-game prayers in all States.

Here we are yesterday:

ATLANTA -- Bowing his head outside the Georgia Capitol on Tuesday, Gov. Sonny Perdue cut a newly repentant figure as he publicly prayed for rain to end the region's historic drought."Oh father, we acknowledge our wastefulness," Perdue said. "But we're doing better. And I thought it was time to acknowledge that to the creator, the provider of water and land, and to tell him that we will do better."

Yes there were some protesters but all of the major TV networks presented this story in a more than "favorable-acceptable" light.

"We the People" are a bunch of Hypocrites!


Rich said...


Dear Prudence said...

What? Was Rosa out sick today?

Maria said...

I went to a Catholic girl's academy. I have this huge memory of going to away volleyball games on our school bus and saying a prayer and then "Mary, Queen of Victory, help us!" If we won, on the way home, we said, "Mary, Queen of Vicotry, thank you!"

I thought it was ridiculous then and I think it even more ridiculous now.

Did they really believe that Mary was up in heaven, weighing in on who was the most virtuous and deserving volley ball team? And if we lost, do you think it was because Mary Ellen Summers let her boyfriend get to second base? This was actually discussed. Blimey.

My daughter attends a Montessori school where there is no prayer recitation and this sits well with me.

Scout said...

Interesting that the girl whose father is making such a stink around the country is actually a Christian and rejects her father's protests.

And this business with the governor calling for prayer to bring rain, it didn't work when the governor of Alabama tried it or for the people who pray in the driest parts of the world, so I don't understand why Purdue thinks it will work for Georgia.

zirelda said...

I just don't get why we have to be so tolerant of everyone but can't have that tolerance reflected.

My mother (who grew up in New Mexico where water has always been a precious resource) says she thinks its silly not to pray for rain.

Oh, I looked for your reply that you said you left on the kid post, couldn't find it, btw.

dive said...

Hee hee. Hi, Prudence.
Your Marxist/Atheist friend is still giggling.

I'm with Kurt Vonnegut on the first one.
How come an avowedly Christian nation has a set of Jewish laws that apply to small desert-dwelling tribes carved on public buildings?

Is there a single judicial building in the States with the Beatitudes carved on it?
No, there is not (actually, I'm taking Kurt's word on this; I've not been round and checked).
Christ's words … "Blessed are the meek … blessed are the peacemakers" are as absent from US buildings as from US policy.
Which is a damned shame.

This in a country that declares Church and State separate and yet defers to the Christian fundamentalists for fear of upsetting their delicate sensibilities, gaining them a disproportionate influence over matters of state.

"In God We Trust" is a nice phrase, and appropriate to a Christian country. The one that always cracks me up is "With God On Our Side."
Yeah, right.

You are so right in pointing out the hypocrisy of the media on all of this.
But far more importantly that any of that; what's the new Eagles album really like? You know I trust your judgement.

Dear Prudence said...

Maria, I was raised a Baptist but occassionally attended services with my Chatholic Noni. I found the differences in practices strange. Isn't it the same GOD?

Robyn, That man is just a nutjob looking for attention with all his court cases!

Dive I am always pleased to make you giggle.

The new Eagles CD I will do an indepth post on it.